Friday, August 05, 2016

Now I have definite blacklist concerns with Literotica

UPDATE 2016/08/09: This appears to have been resolved.  See here.

Rejection #3 for the year. :'(



"In the Tentacles of the Cnidarian" is the fancier name I gave to the H-space Monster Girl Bestiary story I posted yesterday.  I don't normally post the H-space bestiary stories to Literotica as I consider them sketches to show off monster girls I might use later rather than completed stories.  After the problems I had with Succubus Summoning 213 I thought I'd submit the Cnidarian-Girl story as an experiment and... well... the results are a little worrisome.

Literotica normally takes 3 days to reject/approve a story.  This one was bounced in less than 24 hours.

The reason they give for rejection is snuff.  While technically this is true - there is sex and someone dies - I find it a little odd considering that the majority of my stories currently up on Literotica are succubus Bad End stories where the protagonist has mind-blowing sex with a succubus/monster girl and then gets their life drained or worse.  These are Erotic Horror stories after all.  I'm trying, but I can't see how the Cnidarian-Girl story is any 'snuffier' than the one where NĂ¿te bit someone's eye out, or the one where a character had all their skin ripped off.

Now, it is possible Literotica has changed their policy and the kind of succubus Bad End erotic horror story I specialise in is no longer permitted.  This would suck, both for me and the audience that likes that kind of story (and it does appear to be a popular sub-niche within the Erotic Horror category), but ultimately it's their site and they are the final arbiters on what stories they wish to post.

The other possibility is I've pissed someone off (maybe politically with this anti-SJW #GamerGate story) in a position to make things awkward for me.  Given the seemingly arbitrary nature of the recent rejections and how they don't make sense when compared to the other stories I've had accepted, I am now concerned I might have been blacklisted.

Anyway, I've PM'ed the owner of the site and hopefully they'll clear up what's going on.

I've submitted a lot of stories to Literotica over the years and I'd like to continue doing so... if they'll let me.

21 comments:

  1. I'm going to be pretty pissed if they keep you from posting. I just recently started writing and I fall into a similar subject area, so it would really suck for them to potentially be banning stories that have bad ends. Bad ends are fun.

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  2. Monster-Girl Lover05/08/2016, 17:57

    So wait, they effectively don't want any form of actual danger in their erotic horror? That's just silly, especially since everything you write that is meant to be arousing as the victim dies shows the character generally being overloaded with mind blowing pleasure as the last dregs of their life are drained and they are reduced to a mere husk with naught but a smile to hint at the cause of death. If this is an actual policy change of theirs and not just someone that's got a stick up their ass, then that's a damn shame. Hope it all works out for you.

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    1. I'm with you. This whole "snuff" excuse basically sterilizes the whole erotic horror genre. While I'm reluctant to agree with M.E.'s theory, this does seem very bizarre for a site that openly has an erotic horror category.

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  3. CivilDeviation05/08/2016, 18:53

    I am sure you will, but please let us know if they don't accept it. A good few of us angry fans I am sure will go to bat for ya.

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  4. Literotica is getting weird. Many stories on that site would be considered "snuff" under the new rules I think.

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  5. Hydra I don't know if you take requests, but if there is anyone who could do this story I am going to suggest justice its you.

    Would you write a story about a tentacle monster versus a succubus? I feel like you could make that into a very entertaining "combat" and do both monsters justice. Please! Thanks.

    -A fan

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    1. That might be tricky. I make a point to never write from the PoV of non-human characters in order to preserve their sense of alien-ness. It's something that might work from a voyeur angle, though. That opens up interesting possibilities of interpretation - is this fighting, one eating the other, consensual fucking... That might be interesting and make a change from the usual drained-to-death stories I've been churning out for the H-space bestiary.

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    2. Possibly the two are "fighting" over prey they were both hunting? And the story could theoretically be from the viewpoint of their target?

      Or another possibility - Either the tentacle monster or the succubus did something that pissed the other or someone they answer to off, so one of them is undercover and let themselves get targeted by their opposition - The tentacle monster raped a witch's sister, so she summons a succubus from an opposing realm and sets her on the tentacle monster's trail...

      Just suggestions coming to me as I contemplate the idea, doubt I could make any use of them.

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  6. Okay yeah this is sounding ridiculous. Why would they start banning snuff from erotic Horror fics. Someones being a bitch on the staff.

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  7. I have to wonder why they would ban snuff in a horror section anyway. Couldn't they just put up a warning page that says horror means horror?

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    1. I know its a hard request, but would you consider taking up Jackson in HRPG-World until this silliness passes? Its the only story/series I know of that you've written outside of the erotic horror genre; and might be a fun change of pace.

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    2. Jackson in HRPG-World might make a good change of pace. Writing the H-space stories requires tapping into a deep well of cynicism (because of the nature of the setting) and that might have made me grumpier than normal over the last few months. Maybe once I've got all the editing for Succubus Summoning 201out of the way.

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  8. Just to ask when is the e-book of Succubus Summoning 201?

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    1. Soonish, hopefully. I have a date, but as I'm still waiting on things like artwork I won't publicize it until I'm certain everything will be ready.

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  9. Wait, so is their definition of Erotic Horror just vanilla sex stories....but with vampires? Because I'm starting to see a lot of the stories that AREN'T that being classified as snuff ._.

    Feelsprogressiveman (sarcasm).

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  10. Hey, I really enjoy your work and would love to support you however none of your titles are available on Kindle Unlimited? Is there a reason for this? I'm sure you could carve out a pretty profitable niche with your writing ability similar to what Selena Kitt has accomplished for herself.

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    1. I looked into it a while back and it isn't a very good deal for writers with small backlists and niche audiences. I know how you feel as I feel the same when I can't pick up albums from bands I like on my music subscription service with emusic. At the moment I don't think putting my books on KU offers me any benefit, so I don't do it. Sorry.

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    2. Perhaps you should look into a patreon or something similar. I know of Shindol who is a hentai manga artist who publishes work that is even more taboo and niche than monster girls, and he was still able to chalk out a decent living through his patreon.

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  11. The way I imagine it, the succubus' victim are still later suffering in some hellish dimension... so it is not a snuff.

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  12. Desert Eagle07/08/2016, 23:19

    Huh. Where does the line between erotic horror and snuff go then? I think pain and gore, or lack of them, is the main difference.

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  13. Back when I still used to write erotica I submitted several pieces to Literotica. Only two were ever rejected. One because I used the "found footage" technique (the narrator finds a letter in a book describing the sexual encounter that makes up the story) and they asked me to confirm that it was all my writing and not plagiarism of something I had found. Another, a short for the "humour" section, was apparently too short. They asked me to make it over 1000 words. I did.

    Makes no difference these days, since I gave up writing erotica years ago. I just read it now.

    Sometimes.

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